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Default Re: Kobe Better than Jordan

I would like to title this "MR. 81 Pointer."


Listen "Men Lie, Women Lie, but numbers don't!"

The Los Angeles Lakers' star scored a phenomenal 81 points -- the second-highest total in NBA history -- in a 122-104 victory over the Toronto Raptors. Only Wilt Chamberlain's storied 100-point game nearly 44 years ago ranks higher. But this is not what really matters...I just wanted to mention it,lol. Bottom line is, that it is to hard to compare these two players to see who was better, because each one had higher strengths in one area over the other as you will see in the stats I have provided below,not to mention you have a whole boatload of things to factors in such as injuries, supporting team members, and the quality of players that both of these players went up against in their own respective times...

No given the fact that KOBE never had the opportunity to go to college and give his game that collegiate preparation that many may say he never needed...but still Jordan received that preparation which is something that needs to be pointed out...who knows how much better Kobe may have been out after a collegiate atmosphere, given his excellence just right out of high school.


These are Jordans stats

CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
84-85 CHI 82 82 38.3 .515 .173 .845 2.00 4.50 6.50 5.9 2.39 .84 3.55 3.50 28.2
85-86 CHI 18 7 25.1 .457 .167 .840 1.30 2.30 3.60 2.9 2.06 1.17 2.50 2.60 22.7
86-87 CHI 82 82 40.0 .482 .182 .857 2.00 3.20 5.20 4.6 2.88 1.52 3.32 2.90 37.1
87-88 CHI 82 82 40.4 .535 .132 .841 1.70 3.80 5.50 5.9 3.16 1.60 3.07 3.30 35.0
88-89 CHI 81 81 40.2 .538 .276 .850 1.80 6.20 8.00 8.0 2.89 .80 3.58 3.00 32.5
89-90 CHI 82 82 39.0 .526 .376 .848 1.70 5.10 6.90 6.3 2.77 .66 3.01 2.90 33.6
90-91 CHI 82 82 37.0 .539 .312 .851 1.40 4.60 6.00 5.5 2.72 1.01 2.46 2.80 31.5
91-92 CHI 80 80 38.8 .519 .270 .832 1.10 5.30 6.40 6.1 2.28 .94 2.50 2.50 30.1
92-93 CHI 78 78 39.3 .495 .352 .837 1.70 5.00 6.70 5.5 2.83 .78 2.65 2.40 32.6
94-95 CHI 17 17 39.3 .411 .500 .801 1.50 5.40 6.90 5.3 1.76 .76 2.06 2.80 26.9
95-96 CHI 82 82 37.7 .495 .427 .834 1.80 4.80 6.60 4.3 2.20 .51 2.40 2.40 30.4
96-97 CHI 82 82 37.9 .486 .374 .833 1.40 4.50 5.90 4.3 1.71 .54 2.02 1.90 29.6
97-98 CHI 82 82 38.8 .465 .238 .784 1.60 4.20 5.80 3.5 1.72 .55 2.26 1.80 28.7
01-02 WAS 60 53 34.9 .416 .189 .790 .80 4.80 5.70 5.2 1.42 .43 2.70 2.00 22.9
02-03 WAS 82 67 37.0 .445 .291 .821 .90 5.20 6.10 3.8 1.50 .48 2.11 2.10 20.0
CAREER 1,072 1,039 38.3 .497 .327 .835 1.60 4.70 6.20 5.3 2.35 .83 2.73 2.60 30.1
Playoff 179 179 41.8 .487 .332 .828 1.70 4.70 6.40 5.7 2.10 .88 3.05 3.00 33.4
All-Star 13 13 29.4 .472 .273 .750 1.70 3.00 4.70 4.2 2.85 .46 3.23 2.40 20.2





and these are Kobe's stats


Career Season Averages
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
96-97 LAL 71 6 15.5 0.417 0.375 0.819 0.7 1.2 1.9 1.3 0.7 0.3 1.58 1.40 7.6
97-98 LAL 79 1 26.0 0.428 0.341 0.794 1.0 2.1 3.1 2.5 0.9 0.5 1.99 2.30 15.4
98-99 LAL 50 50 37.9 0.465 0.267 0.839 1.1 4.2 5.3 3.8 1.4 1.0 3.14 3.10 19.9
99-00 LAL 66 62 38.2 0.468 0.319 0.821 1.6 4.7 6.3 4.9 1.6 0.9 2.76 3.30 22.5
00-01 LAL 68 68 40.9 0.464 0.305 0.853 1.5 4.3 5.9 5.0 1.7 0.6 3.24 3.30 28.5
01-02 LAL 80 80 38.3 0.469 0.250 0.829 1.4 4.1 5.5 5.5 1.5 0.4 2.79 2.90 25.2
02-03 LAL 82 82 41.5 0.451 0.383 0.843 1.3 5.6 6.9 5.9 2.2 0.8 3.51 2.70 30.0
03-04 LAL 65 64 37.6 0.438 0.327 0.852 1.6 3.9 5.5 5.1 1.7 0.4 2.63 2.70 24.0
04-05 LAL 66 66 40.7 0.433 0.339 0.816 1.4 4.5 5.9 6.0 1.3 0.8 4.09 2.60 27.6
05-06 LAL 80 80 41.0 0.450 0.347 0.850 0.9 4.4 5.3 4.5 1.8 0.4 3.13 2.90 35.4
06-07 LAL 77 77 40.8 0.463 0.344 0.868 1.0 4.7 5.7 5.4 1.4 0.5 3.31 2.70 31.6
07-08 LAL 82 82 38.9 0.459 0.361 0.840 1.1 5.2 6.3 5.4 1.8 0.5 3.13 2.80 28.3
Career -- 866 718 36.5 0.453 0.340 0.839 1.2 4.1 5.3 4.6 1.5 0.5 2.94 2.70 25.0
All-Star -- 10 10 26.8 0.500 0.350 0.778 1.4 3.2 4.6 4.7 2.6 0.4 2.70 2.80 18.0



Career Playoff Averages for kobe
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
96-97 LAL 9 0 14.8 0.382 0.261 0.867 0.1 1.1 1.2 1.2 0.3 0.2 1.56 2.60 8.2
97-98 LAL 11 0 20.0 0.408 0.214 0.689 0.6 1.3 1.9 1.5 0.3 0.7 1.00 2.50 8.7
98-99 LAL 8 8 39.4 0.430 0.348 0.800 1.6 5.3 6.9 4.6 1.9 1.2 3.88 3.00 19.8
99-00 LAL 22 22 39.0 0.442 0.344 0.754 1.2 3.3 4.5 4.4 1.5 1.5 2.50 4.00 21.1
00-01 LAL 16 16 43.4 0.469 0.324 0.821 1.8 5.4 7.3 6.1 1.6 0.8 3.19 3.30 29.4
01-02 LAL 19 19 43.8 0.434 0.379 0.759 1.5 4.4 5.8 4.6 1.4 0.9 2.84 3.40 26.6
02-03 LAL 12 12 44.3 0.432 0.403 0.827 1.3 3.8 5.1 5.2 1.2 0.1 3.50 2.90 32.1
03-04 LAL 22 22 44.2 0.413 0.247 0.813 0.8 3.9 4.7 5.5 1.9 0.3 2.77 2.70 24.5
05-06 LAL 7 7 44.9 0.497 0.400 0.771 0.6 5.7 6.3 5.1 1.1 0.4 4.71 3.60 27.9
06-07 LAL 5 5 43.0 0.462 0.357 0.919 0.2 5.0 5.2 4.4 1.0 0.4 4.40 2.00 32.8
07-08 LAL 15 15 40.3 0.509 0.295 0.814 0.7 5.4 6.1 5.8 1.3 0.5 3.13 2.70 31.9
Career -- 146 126 39.0 0.447 0.326 0.798 1.0 4.0 5.1 4.6 1.3 0.7 2.88 3.10 24.2





Jordan
won numerous awards and set many records during his career. The following are some of his achievements:

Select awards

14-time All-Star
Olympic Gold Medalist—1984 , 1992
Five-time MVP—1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998
Six-time NBA Finals MVP—1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
Seven-time The Sporting News MVP—1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1997, 1998
Rookie of the Year—1985
Defensive Player of the Year—1988
11-time All-NBA—10 times first team, 1 time second team
Nine-time All-Defensive First Team
Sports Illustrated "Sportsman of the Year"—1991
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
Two-time Slam Dunk Contest champion—1987 , 1988
Select records

Most scoring titles—10
Most All-Defensive First Teams—9
Most NBA Finals MVP awards—6
Highest career scoring average—30.12
Highest career scoring average playoffs—33.4 5
Most consecutive games scoring in double figures—866
Highest single series scoring average NBA Finals—41.0 (1993)





KOBE'S Awards and achievements
3-time NBA champion: 2000, 2001, 2002
NBA Most Valuable Player: 2008
2-time scoring champion: 2006, 2007
10-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Has started in each of his appearances
10 consecutive appearances (No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002, 2007
10-time All-NBA Selection:
First Team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
Second Team: 2000, 2001
Third Team: 1999, 2005
8-time All-Defensive Selection:
First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
Second Team: 2001, 2002
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1997
NBA regular season leader in:
points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832, 7th in NBA history), 2007 (2,430), 2008 (2,323)
points per game: 2006 (35.4, 9th in NBA history), 2007 (31.6)
field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173), 2007 (1,757), 2008 (1,690)
field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978), 2007 (813)
free throws attempted: 2006 (819), 2007 (768)
free throws made: 2006 (696), 2007 (667)
2nd most points in a Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors)

NBA records
Kobe Bryant holds four and shares five NBA records:

Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (January 7 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Donyell Marshall)[40]
Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (March 28 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; shared with 6 players).[40]
Most consecutive three-point field goals made, one game: 9 (January 7 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Latrell Sprewell and Ben Gordon).[41]
Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; shared with 6 players).[42][43]
Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; shared with 6 players).[42][43]
Youngest player to score 15,000 points: (27 Years, 136 days)
Youngest player to score 20,000 points: (29 years, 122 days old), surpassing Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record. Bryant also became one of the only three players to reach the milestone under the age of 30. The other two are Chamberlain (29 years, 134 days old) and Michael Jordan (29 years, 326 days old).[44]
Youngest Slam Dunk champion: (18 years, 175 days), after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend.
Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999-00 NBA season)[45]
Youngest player to start a game: (18 Years, 158 days)

Lakers franchise records
Kobe Bryant holds or shares 30 Los Angeles Lakers franchise records:

Points
Season: 2,832 (2005-06)
Game: 81 (January 22 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[46][3]
Half: 55 (2nd half, January 22 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors).[46]
Quarter: 30 (twice, most recently on November 30, 2006 in 3rd quarter vs. Utah Jazz)[46]
Games scoring 50 points or more, career: 23[45]
Games scoring 50 points or more, season: 10 (2006-07)[45]
Games scoring 40 points or more, career: 92[47]
Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005-06)[48]
Consecutive games of 50 points or more: 4 (March 1623 2007)[49]
Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6February 23 2003)[50]
Field goals made
Half: 18 (2nd half, January 22 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors).[51]
Quarter: 11 (February 2 1999 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[52]
Free throws made
Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31 2006 vs. New York Knicks).[53]
Game, playoffs: 21 (May 4]2008 vs. Utah Jazz).[54]
Half: 16 (January 30 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers)[55]
Quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks)[56]
Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; May 8 1997 vs. Utah Jazz).[57]
Consecutive: 62 (January 1122, 2006).[46]
Three-point field goals made and attempted
Career: 1,086 (1996present)[2]
Career, playoffs: 168 (1996present)[58]
Game: 12 (January 7 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[41]
Half: 8 (1st half, March 28 2003 vs. Washington Wizards).[59]
Consecutive: 9 (January 7 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[41]
Season attempts: 518 (2005-06)[2]
Game attempts: 18 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[41]
Steals
Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; February 13 2006 vs. Utah Jazz).[60]
Quarter, playoffs: 3 (tied with 6 players; May 17 1999 vs. San Antonio Spurs).[61]

Other awards and achievements
Gold Medal with Team USA, Tournament of Americas Olympic Qualifiers
1996 Naismith High School Player of the Year[31]
1996 Gatorade Circle of Champions High School Player of the Year[31]
1996 McDonald's High School All-American[31]
1996 USA Today All-USA First Team[31]
1995 Adidas ABCD Camp Senior MVP[31]
Named to the USA Today All-Time All-USA First Team in 2003.[31]
USA Today and PARADE's 1996 National High School Player of the Year with a seasonal average of 30.8 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals and 3.9 blocks per game.[2]
Led Lower Merion High School to a 31-3 record, including 27 straight wins, and the PIAA Class AAAA state title as a senior. The Aces defeated Erie Cathedral Prep 48-43 to take home the gold (1996).[2]
The all-time leading scorer in Southeastern Pennsylvania school history with 2,883 points.[2]
Had his Lower Merion High School number 33 retired on January 26, 2002.
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