“ Originally Posted by fanaticny 
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i don't know what sites are throwing dirt on us, but I think someone should open up a thread in those sites and lay down puertoblack's opinion on the topic(not mentioning his name of course) and make it a "Am i right or wrong on this, what do you think?" type of thread so that everyone on these sites see wcked's logic and also expose those who think they arent' doing any wrong.
there's no issue that was brought to me..but i read few of the site comments that was referring to this type and was said " i won't visit any site that do warez" but they register here anyway...So i thought to start a topic on it and stop the hypocrisy. that's all
“ Originally Posted by jdep1 ”
of course cooking roms would be considered Warez because its not just a couple of skins or tweaks on most of the roms they are an UNOFFICIAL upgrades to our devices but im sure microsoft is aware of it but don't mind and for the rest of the forums that mind what we do.. WHY do they care so much about what we do in our forum? why not mind there own business?
It's true that MS dont mind...because that's how they improve there software.But I'm sure they wont like it if you sell there programs...
“ Originally Posted by 521 ”
The following is my simple opinion:
Simply put, IMHO, it's jealousy, greed, and the nature of competition. Every site/person/company wants to be the see-all, know-all authority on whatever they are doing, and takes offense when someone else questions their supremacy. It's just human nature to want to be "above the rest" or "number one".
And yes, wcked is exactly spot on - any person who is taking the work of another person/company, and is modding it, then claiming it as their own is technically a "hacker" producing a type of "warez". Even in this there are still those who have a sense of esteem - those would be the ones who actually give credit to the original author/owner where their "warez" evolved from.
Personally, I never had an issue myself with posting up another person's work, but I always give credit/thanks to the original owner if I do. Often on my other site, I am posting up schematics and mods and stuff that came from the internet, and when I do, I always try to post a referring link back to the creator/manufacturer/owner's site in return for posting their product, whatever it may be. I do not claim it is mine unless I have actually created it myself.
As far as the copyright/patent itself, even they are expected to expire at some time unless renewed, then the product becomes public domain. Consider for instance books that are originally printed and copyrighted by one publisher, then they quit publishing them. A number of years later, someone else gets ahold of a copy and posts it up or releases it through a new publisher. It's public domain to do so, at least as long as they cite that the work was written by the original author, or cite that it is an adaptation of a book/story/etc by the original author.
Is there something wrong with doing this? Personally I would say no - as the end result is that POSSIBLY the new modded version may appeal to someone who would otherwise have no interest in the original product. Overall result, the work has now been exposed to more and more people, and where the original author's work may have died out, it kinda receives a rebirth (albeit slightly reformed), and allows it to live on in its new form for many more years to come.
I guess what i'm trying to say in a loooong drawn out way, is that I totally agree with wcked on this one. As long as the person is giving some credit to the source, why should they really care that the release is warez or not?
I download warez all the time, and often end up purchasing the original product as a result of my experiences with the ware - be it good or bad.
In the end, it's a win-win situation all the way around for all involved parties.
So much for that... i'll be hushing up now and crawling back to my dark corner over there under the stairs.... LOL!
521.......................
well put together and exactly what i was trying to bring to the light..
“ Originally Posted by VenumX ”
i think this would cause more controversy than it is worth. there are so many arguments for either side of this opinion-based question. it would probably blow up in our faces and sometimes its not the right thing to do to throw salt in the wound... :P
Microsofts worst mistake would be shutting down sites like ours, ppcgeeks, xda-developers or shutting down the rom portion of their site. It's main user-base now uses custom roms and more and more people are becoming knowledgeable about these modifications. M$ is already like a fish outta water right now, if they shut down this portion of their customer base, that would just be taking away the rest of the water that is just barely enough to keep them alive in the first place...
no controversy venumx, just a simple topic to stop site profiling.Because we all love what we do..no one is better then anyone...That's what I'm trying to get at...