“ Originally Posted by inkjammer 
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regular boot up still cant see device. But it is only on the two vista machines. Used cd that came with it and it said new widows mobile device found and installed it but now that I rebooted still same thing it wont see it.
All services and start up programs are activated? And if it said a new windows mobile device is found, then it is found. Make sure activsync is enabled on your phone, and revert any changes you may have made when messing around with your phone. Also, WMDC is still needed on your comp.